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Post by Ensign Sandra on Sept 11, 2014 20:18:37 GMT
I had a very interesting conversation with one of our clinical dietetics professors yesterday. Contrary to what we're constantly told, most of us are not getting enough protein in our diets. When stressed or ill, our bodies use protein preferentially. So even if you're getting enough calories from carbs, you will still lose muscle mass. For optimal health we need to up our lean tissue reserves by eating protein and (you knew it was coming) doing weight-bearing exercise. Also, the entrenched dietary guidelines are not based upon solid clinical evidence, but reflect the thinking of a couple of very influential researchers who cherry-picked data to support their hypotheses.
The long and short of it is: 20-30% of calories from protein (we actually do better on animal proteins) 40-50% from carbohydrates (with all the caveats about whole grains and less processing) 20-40% fats (and saturated fats don't seem to be the bugbear that the early researchers claimed; trans fats or hydrogenated anything are still a bad idea)
Happy dinnertime!
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Post by Otter on Sept 15, 2014 20:49:24 GMT
Well, with those percentage spreads, the shrimp pasta I ordered for Café Alcazar seems, actually, healthy.
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Post by HMSCody on Sept 16, 2014 3:57:58 GMT
Thanks, Sandra. That's helpful to hear, especially from that source.
Many years ago I wondered whether it would be useful or merely amusing to try to adhere to all diet advice all at once. If what the proponents were saying was true, then a person might disappear altogether!
I thought of it during the days when "eat only grapefruit" or "eat an egg for every meal" and the "cabbage soup diet" were popular. I think the smartest thing I heard was diet advice from Daniel Schorr on NPR: "Ratatouille is key" (i.e., eat your vegetables) and "don't eat anything stupid."
And yet I struggle, because I spend too much time in front of the computer working. Must. Move.
HMSCody
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Post by Biki on Sept 26, 2014 20:04:50 GMT
I started buying only real butter a couple of years ago. Never looked back. Read several articles about other fake butter options and decided to just go for it. If I die from eating butter, at least I will have died enjoying the smell of butter bubbling in a pan and onions becoming opaque. The best smell in the world.
How ya doing Sandra? Ready for another Logan winter coming your way??? Mr B. wants to sell our house and move to Cascade Idaho.... ~sigh~........ He's on his way to St. George today for a family wedding. I told him I wasn't driving all that way for a weekend. ugh!!
Biki
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Post by Ensign Sandra on Sept 27, 2014 19:51:48 GMT
I started buying only real butter a couple of years ago. Never looked back. Read several articles about other fake butter options and decided to just go for it. If I die from eating butter, at least I will have died enjoying the smell of butter bubbling in a pan and onions becoming opaque. The best smell in the world. How ya doing Sandra? Ready for another Logan winter coming your way??? Mr B. wants to sell our house and move to Cascade Idaho.... ~sigh~........ He's on his way to St. George today for a family wedding. I told him I wasn't driving all that way for a weekend. ugh!! Biki I'll have to live through the fall before we get to winter! It's been p!ssing rain since 11 pm last night; we rarely get this much at one time. On the bright side, I'm avoiding yardwork without feeling too guilty about it. Cascade is about the same distance from Boise as Mountain Home, just north instead of east, right? It ought to be prettier up there, anyway. I mean, yeah, you're still in Idaho, but at least the landscape comes in other colors as well as brown. Jeez, by the time you drive all that way and back, you could probably fly for about the same price and save, what, about 25 hours of monotonous driving?
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Post by Biki on Sept 29, 2014 20:10:04 GMT
Cascade is 70 miles continuing North from Boise, so yeah, nearly the same distance. His job allows him to live anywhere, so long as it is west of the Mississippi river and not Guam, Hawaii or (thank GOD) Alaska. He has to stay in the continental U.S. If we moved to Cascade though, he would have to work from home as there is no VA clinic for him to work out of. I'm sure that is ONE reason why he is pushing it. We were up there for a family/friends camping trip in June and he talked to this guy at the gas station who told him about the property he'd just bought up there. Hundreds of fenced in acres including forested areas, huge massive barns/out buildings and a 1100 square foot home for $240,000.00 and that got his land greedy heart just a racing. I'm like, no way am I living somewhere where your barns, shops and outbuildings are BIGGER than the house you are going to stick me in!!!! But with the lake up there, it is very beautiful. But the winters would be just what you deal with. Blaine say's he has tools to deal with snow in winter, but he's sick and tired of the wind of Mountain Home. I don't blame him. I am too, but I'm not willing to get rid of everything we've build here to go live in an area that is damn close to living in Alaska. He did the St. George drive, he started out on Thursday, got all the way to Hill where he spent the night, met up with family in Provo and they all headed down to St. G together. Yesterday he left there at 6 in the morning and made it back to the house a little after 4 p.m. Ugh, horrible! ~shudders~ No way in HELL am I sitting in a car for that distance just to do some stupid Thompson mingling. Biki
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Post by DianeGretnaGreen on Jan 9, 2016 17:11:59 GMT
Thought I would restart this thread. Yes, there are the groups--WW, Jenny Craig, Nutrasystem (I do think it is inspiring to hear Marie O speak; she does a good job), etc or health clubs....
Any other tips?
Staying away from the carbs has been a big plus for me. Vegetables and Fish has been a big help.
All the best in 2016.
Yours Aye,
Diane
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Post by Biki on Jan 9, 2016 20:02:18 GMT
Thought I would restart this thread. Yes, there are the groups--WW, Jenny Craig, Nutrasystem (I do think it is inspiring to hear Marie O speak; she does a good job), etc or health clubs.... Any other tips? Staying away from the carbs has been a big plus for me. Vegetables and Fish has been a big help. All the best in 2016. Yours Aye, Diane I started the only two meals a day thing... Try to eat an early dinner and then don't eat again until lunch/brunch the next day. This theory is that fasting your body is the best way, and that the many "mini-meals" offered up by WW, Jenny Craig and Nutrasystem teach your body to continually expect food all the time, and then if you go off their diet, your body has already been trained to expect food all the time which in turn brings the weight back on, which in turn, brings you back to WW, JC and Nutrasystem and the cycle starts over again. The hardest part is the not looking for a "dessert" some time after the final meal.... The article said that unless you are a growing child your body does not need to eat three meals a day for most peoples normal activity levels. I posted that on another tread in this section, but no one ever commented back on it. Whether you choose to eat breakfast, skip lunch, eat dinner, or skip breakfast (my preference) eat lunch and then eat dinner. Which ever way works for you is what you stick with and just not eat three meals a day. Then, regular exercise (which I totally blew since just before Halloween) and just maintain that level of where your body is comfortable being. Starvation diets don't work, sure you may lose the weight, but as soon as you go off those diets, your body triggers a weight gain to make up for what it has lost, PLUS, yeah, lets just add a little bit more to the body for that "just in case" of the next starvation. I've seen this happen over and over again with Mr. B my husband to the point where he is nearly 300 pounds now. He can successfully LOSE weight when he goes on the Atkins type diet (which seems to work well for men because it's all eggs, meat and cheese all day long) but as soon as he once again introduces a carb back into his mouth BOOM, here comes the weight plus much more back at him. Biki
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