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Sanditon
Jan 27, 2020 11:42:02 GMT
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Post by Phizz on Jan 27, 2020 11:42:02 GMT
Are you watching this? What do you think so far?
I’m thinking that Andrew added more stuff that Jane would not address such as the abuse that Lady Denham’s companion (what’s her name) suffered.
~Phizz
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Sanditon
Jan 28, 2020 0:12:16 GMT
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Post by QueueMistressMags on Jan 28, 2020 0:12:16 GMT
I feel like I should stay out of it, but...it's boring, vulgar, and has the Austenian subtlety of a steel-toed boot to the head.
And is Charlotte doesn't brush her hair and put on a hat I shall not be responsible for my actions. Though...
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Sanditon
Jan 28, 2020 9:02:56 GMT
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Post by Phizz on Jan 28, 2020 9:02:56 GMT
Which of the Jane Austen films do you think portrayed the hair, wardrobe and manners best?
~Phizz
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Post by QueueMistressMags on Jan 28, 2020 20:00:00 GMT
I don't know that there's any one that is perfect. However, the 90s adaptations (P&P, S&S, and Persuasion) feel like they get this stuff mostly right. Persuasion 1995 in particular, that is the only Austen novel set in a particular time period (summer 1814-February 1815) and the details of the fashions fit into that time period. P&P is more Generic 1810s Regency. But in Persuasion, you see them in daytime wearing cotton dresses with chemisettes underneath, then for evening the fabrics and colors are richer and the decolletage is exposed. (S&S 95 also gets this right, though it is set about 10-15 years earlier.) I got this book for Christmas but I haven't read it through yet. But it seems to be a pretty complete fashion history of the period. www.amazon.com/Dress-Age-Jane-Austen-Regency/dp/0300218729/While I snark (because they make it SO EASY), I don't want to get hung up on the historical details. I would honestly let stuff slide if the film itself was great. I found it a little boring but some people seem to love it. But I was rewatching Love & Friendship and just savoring all the details of fashion (which I'm told isn't quite right, but who cares) and the interiors and how beautiful it all was. There was lovely Kate Beckinsale, wearing an exquisite gown, her hair done beautifully, sitting on a gorgeous period settee and sipping tea from a beautiful bone china cup. It's all so beautiful and she's so cunning and evil while appearing sweet. The juxtaposition is quite well done and what makes it so funny. And that's what I mean by Sanditon is not subtle. While I agree with the direction of the plot being Lady Denham urging Sir Edward to marry Miss Lambe and Clara and Esther to be fighting over Lady D's money, the way they are going about it is so obvious and loud and vulgar. Lady Susan is an Austen villainess--she is sweet and charming and beautiful, and plotting to take you for everything you've got. Whereas in Sanditon we have Clara and Esther talking about "whore's tricks" and the incest and it's all just so obvious and meant to be titillating, whereas Lady Susan is subtle and hilarious. Austen is subtle and hilarious and fan fiction in her name should be the same. Saying your version is "fresh" and "modern" and not "chocolate box" doesn't mean it still can't be subtle and hilarious. Put a hat on your heroine and give her something more interesting to do. That being said, if you are enjoying it, please continue to do so. This is why I said I shouldn't get involved. I'm a party pooper. LOL I just feel like if we continue to support these lesser productions, we'll keep getting more of the same. If we hold out for quality, we'll get quality. Just me.
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Post by shipoftheline on Jan 28, 2020 21:04:18 GMT
I have watched all eight episodes and will let you know what I thought until you've seen the whole thing.
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